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Windows 10 Compatibility with Microsoft Money

Well tomorrow Microsoft is supposed to start installing Windows 10 as an “upgrade” to PCs running Windows 7 and Windows 8.x and it appears that some early testers have observed hiccups without official acknowledgement of fixes being offered.  I for one plan on not accepting the Windows 10 upgrade for a while (assuming of course that I will be offered the option and it won’t just install on its own). We have until July 2016 to get the free upgrade to Windows 10, so there is no need to rush it!

Of course, patching the dll as previously discussed in the Windows 8 Compatibility discussion will be necessary if you are installing Money on a clean install of Windows 10 or upgrading from Windows XP or Windows 7, but if the PC is simply being “upgraded” from Windows 8 to Windows 10, I’m thinking that you should have already patched the dll in order to get Money working.

[added 10/30/2015] Microsoft did NOT patch Windows 10 contrary to what some people have stated in the Microsoft Forum.  They did happen to release a version of Internet Explorer recently with a version number less than 16 characters long, but they could again update IE and use a version number with too many characters.

Additionally please note that the “bugs” in Money’s “MNYOB99.DLL” file have been there for years according to Raymond Chen and by his description of those bugs, it is surprising that Money has worked consistently with the older OS’s all these years.  Windows 8 was hit and miss regarding the dll patch, but the patch is definitely recommended for Windows 10 PCs.  Go here for the instructions.

I happened to note that Robin Wheeler has observed that Microsoft Money is expecting that the version number for Internet Explorer should be defined with no more than 15 characters.   The current version number in the registry for Internet Explorer 11 is 9.11.10240.16384 and she has found that the value needs to be truncated by removing the 16th character (4) in order for Money to run.  Great observation Robin!  This could be a pain if Microsoft is going to update Internet Explorer (or Edge which is the name of IE’s replacement) using version numbers greater than 15 characters long.

*** Should be easy for someone to write a python script to keep the version number truncated in the registry as it changes in the future.***

So, to clarify, in order to resolve the error: [updated 8/2/2015 to include 32-bit variance]

  1. Open Registry Editor (RegEdit).  (Search for it using Windows 10 search box, and then right-click and choose “run as administrator”)
  2. Navigate to the following registry key for 64-bit Windows:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
    or for 32-bit Windows:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
  3. In the right pane, look for Version registry value.
  4. Modify the value data to 9.11.10240.1638 so that it contains no more than 15 characters.

She questioned why Money looks at the IE version #.   Unlike a program that generically invokes a browser by simply looking up the registry to identify the default browser, Microsoft Money is designed to use Internet Explorer exclusively as the entire user interface and consequently it looks up the registry to find the installed version.  If no entry is found, it will default to prompting you to install Internet Explorer 6 – which of course will never install with Windows 8 or 10.

I’m going to inject my theory here at the risk of being proven wrong (I don’t have Windows 10 yet), but based on past experience, I don’t think it matters if Windows default browser is set to Edge or Firefox or Chrome – Money is always going to use Internet Explorer, or at least what the registry leads Money to think is Internet Explorer. Based on all of the changes reported to work for “Version”, it seems that it can be almost anything, as long as it isn’t longer than 15 characters AND as long as a version of Internet Explorer can be found, that is what is invoked to open up Money.

What isn’t clear yet is whether a clean install of Windows 10 (vs. an upgrade) and/or future iterations of Windows 10 will always install a version of IE, whether Edge will always act like a future version of IE, and whether Microsoft will continue to use the registry as a means to fooling legacy programs like Money into thinking that the current browser will behave properly with Money as IE has up through Version 11.

I’ll do my best to keep track of any issues and solutions that keep me from using Microsoft Money as I really have no intentions of not using this fantastic program.

[UPDATE 9/10/2015]

I’ve just read that upgrading to Windows 10 sometimes messes up the read/write permissions of your Documents folder and since I recall that some readers have reported that they had trouble saving their Money files, i thought I would add instructions for this issue in this blog. I automatically assumed that readers reporting this issue had their Money data file in the wrong location since Windows 7 & 8 never messed up the file permissions.

“I can’t use my files after updating. How do I get rid of the read-only attribute in my Documents and Download folders?”

Removing read-only attributes is usually a snap, and should take only a minute or two. Here’s how:

  • In an admin-level account, right-click the read-only files or folders and select Properties.
  • Under the General tab, untick the box for Read-only and then click OK.
  • After a few seconds (depending on number of affected files and folders) all the selected files/folders should no longer be read-only.

NOTE: I recommend that you check your browser setting in Money since the internal browser reports to site servers that you are using outdated IE9:

Under settings you can change Browser Settings from Browse Internet from within Money
to
Always use default browser to browse Internet

-ameridan

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